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For The Press - A Project Summary

Apr
17

Ok….it’s been a - dynamic week.  Things have been a little hectic.  Some job related, others project related.

Monday I was terminated from my job.  This came as quite a surprise to me.  I felt that it was entirely without cause.  This was a feeling apparently shared by my boss’ boss.   In a meeting with him yesterday I was assured that I was still employed.  It isn’t appropriate for me to go into any kind of details about this situation, but I can say that the majority of my week has been about taking the necessary steps to contact those that needed to be apprised of my termination so the issue could be resolved.   All seems to be working out on that front.

We’ve also run into some interesting challenges with the adaptation process of BoT.  Sometimes things that work perfectly well in a book simply will not translate to the screen in an effective way.  One such example is the time passage in the novel. There are quite a few very large jumps in time.  Some can be resolved fairly easily, but others, such as Anna’s pregnancy and subsequent birth, present a bit of a problem.  We are at a point in the script where, in the interest of moving the story forward, we need to get to Gehn’s birth rather quickly.  There are a lot of events that occur after - and some due to - his birth.  This puts us in the position of trying to figure out how to lapse 9 months in an effective way.

There are a lot of devices that have been employed in other films for these types of things.  Unfortunately, none of them seem to be appropriate for the style of this film, and some are just down-right campy.

Common Devices:

  •  A fade to black followed by a fade in to the desired period of time.   This is a pretty ambiguous device that really isn’t supported by the script.
  • The above mentioned accompanied by voice-overThis is absolutely not an option. Voice-over rarely works and certainly is not within the style of this film. 
  • A time-passage as indicated by a change in seasonThis can either be a simple cut to an exterior shot in which the season has obviously changed or can be more elaborate such as the teddy-bear sequence in Amelie. Obviously, this is difficult when the story takes place in a cavern where there are no seasons.
  • A montageUm…no.  These rarely work.  More often than not, they feel completely cheesy.  The rest of the time, they take you out of the movie.

So, yeah.  This is a bit of a tough one.  I’ve got a few ideas.  One seems to be at least workable, but I still don’t really like it.  I think I’ll just go with it for now and look for other options in a later draft.

A’Gaeris has finally been officially introduced.  His presence is established relatively early in the script, but we’ve just now reached the point of really exploring his character and the role he plays in the story.  He’s a lot of fun to write.  Manipulation is always fascinating.  It’s interesting - I’m not a manipulative type.  I really have no skill for it at all, but I seem to be doing okay with getting into the mind of a manipulator…I hope.  One thing about A’Gaeris is that he’s such a passionate person.  That kind of energy is a joy to write.  He and Veovis have that in common.  I LOVE writing Veovis!

Anyway, it appears that there are some administrative things that need to be taken care of before I return to work.  Being as how I have nowhere to be tomorrow, Patrick has invited me to his place tonight to do some more work and maybe solve some of these problems we’re facing with the script.  It looks like it’s gonna be a sleepover.  I love sleepovers!  It’s too bad I didn’t have more notice.  We could have made it a pajama party.  I just didn’t have time to go out and get a onesie.  A pajama party just isn’t the same without the little footie things.  :)

8:49 pm

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Sorceress
Apr 17 2008

A montage only works if you attach cheezy 1980s music to it. For example, Survivor’s “Eye of the Tiger” while Gehn’s in his guild overcompensating by being Super-D’ni.

I also wish it was socially acceptable for adults to wear feetie-pajamas.



another possibility would be to follow two or three threads, switching between, and returning to Anna at the term of her pregnancy..

or nothing ever said that ages had to stay time synchronized.. so a few days or weeks in another age may be 9 months in Anna’s..



Greg Wicklund
Apr 17 2008

I suppose cheesy time cards are also out of the question [/joke]

And I agree, the fade to black thing doesn’t really work out well. I can’t think of what would work out either, since, as it’s been pointed out, it’s not exactly easy to do seasons for a cavern 3 miles or more under the surface of whatever Age they’re on… (As far as I can remember, there was nothing specifying that the cavern was located on earth.)



Well, to Adrian and Patrick, wasn’t Anna inside the Home Age of Aitrus’ family when she had Gehn? And that’s also where Gehn was born…

So you could, theoretically, pull a move where after it’s announced she’s pregnant that Aitrus sends a servant of the family to tend to Anna in her pregnancy. Not only would this allow time to pass without Anna’s presence, you could fill the storyline with a plot element of the plot in Ae’gura at the time. Then have it flip back to the Age to show Anna in her pregnancy preparing for Gehn.

After that, show another plot element from the story and then have the servant return for Aitrus. Then they would return to the Age to tend to Anna… and Gehn would be born.

Also, I’d have to check, but I’m not sure a specific time of fertilization was defined for D’ni children. I think Gehn was a premature child too…

Cutting off small periods of time with jumps between the plot of the Home Age and the plot of events in Ae’gura could cause the time to pass quicker. There could also be “added content” with the Council debated what to do with Gehn, or whether or not he would be allowed into the Guilds based on his heritage.

I dunno, it’s up to you guys really. Be sure to post here if you wanna bounce ideas, though.



Robert The Rebuilder
Apr 17 2008

Why not take the Joyce approach? Have the scene transport us from the early days of still photography and transport us to modern cinema while Gehn gestates in the womb.

Or not.



@Robert

O_O O_O
>_> <_<
-_- -_-

“You wanna explain that, sir?”



Adrian… You do have a onesie as you’ll most likely end up in your boxers on my couch with a beer. That counts. And if you need someone to be manipulative — (raises hand) me me!

Nek… From what I recall the roof of the classroom in D’ni had a book that mentioned parenting, reproduction and marriage. I wonder if anyone has that content saved somewhere. I never grabbed it.

RtR… Only if we can use a very large sound effect of DING when the baby’s done. :)



@Patrick:

Idea!

Uru: Complete Chronicles!

Tomorrow I’m free, I could pop on in and copy it word for word for you :D
It’s no problem at all (cause I doubt anyone else would waste 3 hours on this XD)



Nek, you know the e-mail. As a prize for your efforts, I’ll also have to offer you this free gift.



LOL

Epic fail XD

I’ll do it tomorrow morning and e-mail you guys concerning it. BTW, do you want it word for word, or just important parts? Either way I’m glad to do this.



You should now have an E-mail at your doorstep, Titled: Uru Journal - D’ni Pregnancy.

Hard to miss my name in the e-mail sender, so enjoy.



“A montage only works if you attach cheezy 1980s music to it. For example, Survivor’s “Eye of the Tiger” while Gehn’s in his guild overcompensating by being Super-D’ni.”
_
My mind instantly jumps to the training montage in Wet, Hot, American Summer :) That is the best parody of a sports film montage I’ve ever seen. Maybe that’s exactly what this movie needs!



Greg Wicklund
Apr 18 2008

It’s the city rooftop, so use your City book, not the Neighborhood one. I’ve seen it too. There also happens to be an easter egg up there too. See if you can spot one of Cyan’s older games up there! (whether or not it was released by Cyan before or after Myst, I don’t know, and i can’t go check what it was since I haven’t installed the complete chronicles yet :()

Either way, it should be exciting, so keep up the good work!



If I may interject my humble opinion. Another way of switching between time is to give a time period a certain look. One has grainier footage or is in sepia tine or grey scale where as the other can be in vivid color. Sort of a comic book device and can be cheesy if not done right.

Fascinating challenge!



Øystein H. Færder
Apr 18 2008

Hi. An other solution could be to show dates(in D’ni Time) on a blakck screen each time there is date change, but that may be problematic since that will happen often.

It’s very good to see that you are really looking into that problem as a challenge and not only finding “easy solutions”;)

Good luck!



The best montage parody would be the one in Team America, which actually features a song explaining the definition of a montage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBSfY01nMk

Sadly with subtitles, but still a must see. Go learn the basics guys…



I’ll say one thing to begin: http://rel.to
You can get information about anything from there, really awesome!
Fan sites like the archive on dpwr are your friends when it comes to such things as DRC notebooks and other facts. *pats Myst bookmark list* (But why would you want to know about the pregnancy of a D’ni woman? :)) The Marriage book is interesting, the whole ceremony is very religious, but if you read about the kings you see that religious influences changed a lot over the years. You can also question if the lower-class citizens really followed this five-day ceremony since we really don’t know that much about them… Can you tell I think this is intriguing?
As for the time lap.. I think it’s pretty obvious that time has passed if Anna comes into a scene with a big belly. Why make it complicated?



Jasons suggestion of grainer footage just gave me a thought. Maybe you could do a montage as if they are viewing home movies of the pregnancy on a viewer.



Baladria
Apr 18 2008

I’m sorry about your job, Adrian. I hope it gets worked out!



You could start with Aitrus filming Anna, zoom in to the view screen, run the montage and then zoom out to see then viewing the images. I think that would be an interesting way to show some D’ni technology.



Ooh, go with a montage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xBSfY01nMk

“The hour’s approaching to give it your best
And you’ve got to reach your prime
That’s when you need to put yourself to the test
And show us the passage of time
We’re gonna need a montage
Ooh, it takes a montage

Show a lot of things happening at once
Remind everyone of what’s going on
In every shot, show a little improvement
To show it all would take too long
That’s called a montage
Girl, we want a montage

In anything, if you want to go
From just a beginner to a pro
You need a montage
Even Rocky had a montage

Always fade out in a montage
If you fade out it seems like more time has passed in a montage.”



Well whatever you do, I can’t wait to be able to stand up in the theater and say “I remember when they were figuring this part out!” Or “Hey, I remember when they showed us that part of the script!” and then get thrown out by the usher!



Though I’m no filmmaker, I think the simplest way to pull this off could just be to show a video of Ti’ana pregnant, then just cut to her giving birth. I don’t think the viewer will have any trouble figuring out what has happened.



Floydman
Apr 20 2008

All you need to do is get Forrest Gump to narrate the whole thing… :P



I feel like you’re over-thinking this. The simplest way to achieve this is through editing. For example, you could have her discovering her pregnancy and then cut to her giving birth. Through effective camera work and editing, this will prove a powerful solution and the audience will have no problem with the time cut. This kind of thing is done all the time very effectively. It is all completely based on your ability as a filmmaker.



Re Greg’s first comment…if I’m remembering BoT correctly, that’s the one where Anna finds her way down from the surface of the Earth to the Cavern. Which pretty much puts it on (or rather in) Earth. Unless he means that she’s being pregnant in another Age, which is always possible, but then you can have sky or seasons or whatever you want.



KatrAnna
Apr 24 2008

Atrus talking about it, like in the book, makes it perfectly clear (at least too me). By just changing everyone’s costumes a little, you can get a sense that time has moved forward.



Camoudile
Jul 03 2008

Well, I know I’m coming in this late (who knows, you’ve probably already written this passage into the giant mondo script of doom, but oh well), but who says you can’t do the season thing… with a Gemedet scene at the beginning and end? Presumably Gemedet (or other outside Age) has seasons.


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