Jun 22

Turjan’s Triumph

I wanted to take a minute to acknowledge someone that is very deserving of the recognition.  A while back we were contacted by a musician by the name of A. Pachins.  He expressed an interest in offering some of his musical works (heavily inspired by the Myst universe) to our project and related efforts.  Unfortunately, in the hustle and bustle of things, we failed to respond to him.  Recently, a link popped up on our dashboard that originated from his site http://aylahn.wordpress.com.  Patrick and I both had a chance to listen to what he had put together based on what we’ve been working on.  We were both deeply impressed.

We’re not at a point where musical score is ready to be nailed down, and we’re not sure what options we are going to have at that juncture, but I can tell you that we were both very thrilled to hear what A. Pachins had come up with.   To say the least, it’s worth a listen.  Check it out!

Turjan,  so sorry for the delay in response.

Posted at 2:27 am by Adrian in collaborators, communications
32 others write,
  • Did you also see his other blog at http://musicdni.blogspot.com/ ? He frequently gave concerts of his compositions in Uru Live. It’s really amazing how he managed to make replicas of D’ni instruments like the Maral-obe.

  • only know your opinion on my work fills me with joy!
    a big thank you to everyone for your interest!

  • I am placing my bets right now, Myst is going to be release in theaters December 2011!!!

  • Dude, this is incredible.

    And wishy, I know you’re wishing well, but I’m thinking this’ll be done maybe August 2012 :D

  • Merrik Stryfereply

    Mmm, I’d say December 2012. Give them a few months vacation.

  • I would say December 21 2012 Muhaha

  • YAY TURJAN!!!!!!!! I knew it would happen!!!

  • 2025 (looong vacation?)

    And yes Turjan’s music is awesome! The ahnomehprad is just too cool.

  • That’s some really awesome music. Extremely reminiscent of the games, yet with a more cinematic air to it. Bravo, Turjan! And thank you Adrian for linking me (/us) to it!

  • Yey Turjan!!

  • That’s beautiful! I love the music piece!

  • They SHOULD have it done by December 2009!!! Edit some Lord of the Rings movie here, Starwars there, add in a little sound track from Turjan and Jack Wall, hire Catherine Zeta Jones to play Anna and we got a movie!!!

  • Oh yeah, hire the Ghen from Riven if he is still alive… Or Jack Nicholson.

  • Øystein Håvard Færderreply

    Yey Turjan! And if possible, a cooperation between Turjan and Jack Wall could make a really great soundtrack!!

  • myst fanaticreply

    yea! the question is finally answered! Mr. Turjan’s music is very pretty, and the musical talents are definitely there. But I agree with Faerder in that Jack Wall and he should work together. If i were to put this piece to a part in the movie, it would be when T’i'ana found the great shaft, and maybe a piece in the Destruction of D’ni. But Jack Wall and he should work together to compose the rest.

    But, all in all, the music is great. i’m definitely happy with mr. Turjan. Congradulations! I wish you luck in the future.

  • Wow, it’s like he sent you his own version of an animatic! :)

  • Jack Wall needs to (if you get him for this) wite music like M3, M4′s music was pretty in-your-face and orchestral… it wasn’t subtle like D’ni music should be at all.

    But, if he can write stuff like the M3 music; I think getting him on-board would be great. :)

    ~Lontahv

  • Heck yeah, Myst 3 music was the best, especially the main theme.

  • Sounds great! Very much like Robyn Miller’s Riven-era work, which was my favorite. Very haunting stuff.

  • AndyBlooShoesreply

    I like this guy! Keep him!

  • I want Robyn back too though, if possible. if Robyn, Jack, and Turjan worked together…

  • I really liked how the words to Exile’s main theme were in D’ni/Narayan. Set a different level of realism into it. I agree with Lontahv though, it needs to be a subtle and very moody music. However, the song used at the end of the animatic (during the scenes from Veovis’ conviction to the very end) fits Myst INCREDIBLY well, so I think that should be used, if possible, in the movie trailers to come :)

  • AndyBlooShoesreply

    Yeah, when I was hearing that song, it really did feel exhilirating. Even people who don’t know Myst (like people I showed the animatic to) agree!

  • Ok, my personal opinion:

    Hire Turjan and Robyn. For 2 reasons. Turjan is fantastic and has actually brought something new and appropriate to the Myst table. Robyn created Myst, Riven, and D’ni and understands what music is fit for the universe he created. The man knows what style, atmosphere, and emotion should be attributed to Myst as he both created the worlds and composed the original soundtracks which paved the way for the others.

    Another point I’d like to make is while Turjan is by far the best composer besides Robyn to work for the Myst name, there are still understandable imperfections about some of his music. For instance, the proposal piece is for the most part fantastic, but there are then there are these drums which don’t fit. The style of drumming sounds too new – i.e. closer to human pop music than to D’ni music. I think a rougher sound texture, as could be done with an African tam tam would work a lot better. As it stands now it’s a great piece, but the percussion uncomfortably reminds me of new age gothic pop music. It’s the kind of thing that even if someone likes as music, it will never work in a film context. Let me rephrase that; it CAN work, but not successfully, and by successfully I mean stellarly. Success in my eyes, especially in relation to the Myst movie equates a sense of hardcore sophistication and perfection. The piece, or at least the drum part, just doesn’t cut it in terms of how seriously the film is meant to be taken.

    Anywhoo, everything else I’ve heard on Turjan’s site is pure artistic gold. The ahnomeprad stuff sounds like the soundtrack Stanley Kubrick would have used if he were making the Myst movie or a movie set in ancient times, if he were still alive.

    Another thing I’d like to mention in relation to what I just said is…honestly… screw Jack Wall and Larkin. Yes they may have done some cool stuff with Myst, but they’re really not cut out for film, and by film I mean real cinema. Even Wall who does fantastic game soundtracks, you gotta admit, even with the games, it’s just not the most innovative or creative music. There have been some bursts of inventiveness and genuine compositional gold, but for the most part it’s orchestral nu-classical – which translates to “it’s been done” and “it’s still being done, much to my a lot of other’s dismay”. Larkin on the other hand I’ve never had an affinity for. It’s game music. Period. …and I’ve actually been playing a lot of other games recently, like non-Myst ones for a change (my chance to catch up with culture) and I’ve gotta say that even though many argue that his inventiveness and style reigns high in the industry, I’ve heard a lot better stuff in the last few months. It’s just average music, barely. The Elder Scrolls Soundtracks are phenomenal for instance. Another big impresser was the soundtrack for Portal. All that to say that if you want a composer who can score a film that won’t be devoured by 10 year old kind, (meaning a work of cinema – those which seem to be lacking these days) you need a ‘composer’, not a big shot in the video games industry. I think it’s safe to say that Robyn Miller isn’t really a big shot, or in the video games industry (as he’s far too much of an artist to stay put and confide himself to one line of work and way thinking) that and the guy is composer in all manners of the word. He composed ALL of Myst from the visuals to the sound and soundtrack to the mere notion of a video game as a visual and intellectual interactive adventure. You’ve gotta give this guy credit, especially because he practically invented the notion of virtual reality.

    Anywhoo, my vote goes to Turjan and Robyn. I think their similar mind frames when it comes to composing and music in general will prove to be an artistic edge; along with their differences. Kudos to both of them and to the Myst movie!

  • WoW ! Yali ! Thanks…
    only about the Drums in my piéce , it’s the “Taiko” japanese drum (at the end) and Udu african drum (at the middle)

  • I agree with everything Yali’s said here. Robyn and Turjan!

  • Yali, you’ve got it backwards. While his score for Riven is one of the greatest in the series and still a personal favorite, Robyn’s work is far too atmospheric to work for this film. And if he even accepted the challege at all, which is unlikely, he would be obliged to remain within the parameters of the musical score he set up in the first two games — which is not the least bit fitting for an epic movie having nearly nothing to do with them.

    Jack Wall has the skill and experience necessary to create the best Myst-themed score; his work for the series has been the most cinematic. For the two games he scored, his goal was to capture and give power to the family tension so very prevalent in Exile and Revelation, the two most character-driven games in the series.

    Could Wall’s music fit the story of the D’ni? The more I read about this project, from passages of the script and the cinematic, the more I begin to realize that it is as character-driven as those games. I’m pretty confident in the man, despite underwhelming me with his Jade Empire soundtrack.

    As far as Larkin goes, in my opionion he was simply emulating what Wall had innovated, but with some added synthesizers. Something about synthesizers in such an organic environment as the Myst series really bothers me on a personal level, so he certainly wouldn’t be my choice.

  • I agree that Jack Wall has great music, and very cinematic, but I do have one worry. We haven’t really heard anything D’ni out of him. Exile was very good Narayani. Revelation was good Sereni.
    Robyn would be a cool addition, but as mentioned, it might be too atmospheric. Riven’s music was beautiful, but is it Myst Movie?
    I’d go for the people who made End of Ages’ soundtrack (or URU). And, of course, Turjan. His music is very good.

  • Yeah, if you (MystMovie guys) can find Robyn… hire him on the spot. Uru is very lacking is some things because the music was not written by him. Not that I don’t like Tim L. a lot, but his music is just “different”. The score for the movie needs Robyn, and Turjan.

  • No love for Tim? Have we forgotten how we all got chills at the Gallery Theme, or sat around in Minkata just to hear the music?

    I would love to see a blend of Jack Wall/Howard Shoreesque orchestral bits, ambient moodiness like Tim/Robyn, and the Non-humanishness of Turjan’s work. Add in Elizabeth Frasier and Ben del Maestro for vocals.

  • I really don’t want to see Robyn do music for a movie. His pieces are atmospheric and dated.
    Tim’s stuff is good, but it’s made for a totally different genre; Myst is a game, no a movie.
    Wall’s music is way more cinematic, but more importantly, he has experience writing for an orchestra. That’s huge.

  • My issue with Wall is that it’s decidedly cinematic. I’m tired of ‘cinematic’. I’m tired of movie scores that overtly emphasize the epic and the dramatic like they’re trying to convince us the film, world, story is the best thing since sliced bread. The only movie that did it well is Star Wars, and it really ain’t the greatest work of cinema if you consider the 100 years that film has existed.

    If you want a classical composer, hire the dead, no seriously. Look how Kubrick utilized Strauss in 2001: A Space Odyssey, or Beethoven in A Clockwork Orange, or even the living Ligeti, who by the way is a serious composer for whom commercialism is the LAST thing on his mind. Jack Wall is cheap, like every other industry music dude, and I mean that not out of hate for them but for love of cinema. I was playing the Myst III Soundtrack one time for my piano teacher in grade 7 and I said it was just like Carmina Burrana. He said, “Yeah, but Carmina Burranna is better”. True. …and heck, even the big names in Hollywood have yet to release anything of musical caliber. I just saw Wall E which is a great movie with a symphonic score, but musically it offers nothing of any real significance or memorability.

    But back to my main point, I want this film to be a *film*, not a movie. I use movie as a metaphor for the kind of film that is so easily appreciated across the world but has no merit as being a ‘work’, that is a product that has an identity and is self reflecting through it’s very existence. Music is extremely integral in developing an image and aura for a film that can lend itself to flip from being a product of entertainment to being a work of art. You can make far better and infinitely more thrilling and powerful films with little music, and music that is subtle and direct than with a huge orchestra and a postmodern movie composer straight from the market. All you’ll get is legions and legions of 11 year old fans and 2+ years of stardom before the next decade rolls around and people start thinking differently, once again.

    What I want is the film to reflect the artistry and intelligence of Cyan and the games (Myst/Riven/Uru) and the person who comes closest to knowing how to create real music and has a *chance* of understanding what I mean by the artistry and intelligence of Cyan and the games is the frakkin’ creator the company and the Myst name, concept, and universe!

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