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For The Press - A Project Summary

Mar
31

Ours are difficult days and even more difficult nights.

Things have been quite crazy for both of us.  There are times when we find ourselves overwhelmed with the ridiculous amounts of obligations, inspirations, fears, disappointments and passions.  Of course, when all is said and done, the choice is ours to undertake them all.

At present we are attempting to balance script revisions, F.T.P., a webseries concept that presented itself rather unexpectedly, a web-based project that Patrick hinted at in a previous post, two other short films (Scorpio and Always) and our day jobs.   On top of all of this we also have our personal lives to attend to (mine has been a complete nightmare lately).

Some things are bound to fall by the wayside, or at the least be moved to the back burner when all is said and done, but for now we both seem to be assessing the situation and attempting to identify the priorities.  As per usual, one thing remains firmly at the top of the list - Draft 2 of BoT.  Congratulations, Myst.  Number one -  with a bullet!

Unfortunately, my hopes of a break while others undertook the burden of editing down my verbosity have been squashed.  Patrick’s life has proven to be far to hectic to accommodate the responsibility, so I’ve found myself back in front the screen once again.  I trying.  I really am.

Ours is a life of perpetual upstart…

P.S.  I couldn’t resist following the motif.  Patrick, I hope you’ll forgive me for hijacking your sequence.

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Annunaki
Mar 31 2009

First.
I know how you guys feel I have been there and am there!



Dr. Worm
Mar 31 2009

Firs–S@#$!!!!!
I do not envy you guys.
We’re all rooting for you.



myst fanatic
Mar 31 2009

I like how the description of this page at the bottom of the post read “no keywords, too lazy”. :lol: But I feel for you guys. That is a lot of work, and a lot of headaches crammed into a short amount of time. I’m sorry we can’t be of more help. :adriandeadface:
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But is that Patrick’s big revelation? :patrickjudingface: Posting FTP over the internet? Or am I reading that wrong? If it is, that’s a really good idea, and where can we go to find the site? is it the FTP site? Why am i asking so many questions?
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Anyway, keep up the good work, try and squeeze some free time (may i suggest making some cookies ;)), and good luck. I sincerely don’t envy you guys….
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:ridiculous: :adrianface: :adrian2face: :lol: :)



This lurker’s rooting for you too. Keep up the good work, you guys.



Flowerpower
Mar 31 2009

Coffee works miracles. As well, as cats :-)
Shall I send you one :-)
Only kidding.
Good Luck!!!!!



KatrAnna
Mar 31 2009

Don’t let everything get you down. And good luck with the editing. (If you need a proof-reader, I’m so there. Like one the last sentences in this blog entry says “I trying”.) :adrian2face:



KatrAnna: Intentional typo. I swear :)



good luck with everything! i hope life calms down for you guys =]



I understand what it’s like to have a lot of stuff to juggle. I’m currently sitting under four completely different stories that need developing and writing and I also want to do art for, plus I still have school to do. It gets overwhelming at times.

I wanted to ask, was the artist who drew the boards for your trailer named David Gunson? I was just watch behind the scenes featurette of Legend of the Seeker on their website and I swear his art style looks exactly like that used in the Myst trailer.



You just gave me an anxiety attack. Are you really considering Always as having appeal enough to shoot?



AndyBlooShoes
Apr 01 2009

^^So you write just for fun, then? lol
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Anyway, I know how you feel. I’m not balancing anything truly important, but I know the feeling.
I also love the tags. lol
I hope you guys get enough strength to do all of this.



Isn’t the thing on the top of a priority list the thing you always postpone in favour of other less important things? *sniff*



was earth an age writen by the dni our was it the first “place”?



Ryan Davis
Apr 02 2009

Guys,
You clearly need a break and/or some help. I think it’s very possible. Delegate some stuff. Ask for volunteers. I know a lot of tasks are important and you don’t want to trust others with them.
But.
My girlfriend is paid to read and review scripts in Hollywood. Plus, she’s played Myst and read Book of Atrus, but not Book of Tiana, so she has no pre-conceptions. Let her read the script and give you notes on what could be cut. The worst that could happen is you don’t take her ideas. Best that could happen is you save some time and stress and get a leaner script. Go for it!



“was earth an age writen by the dni or was it the first “place”?”
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The Age of Earth was written by the D’ni (well, the people who would become the D’ni). They were a breakaway group from the Ronay (who were fleeing their first Age of Garternay [the Age had simply grown old and would collapse or something]). The famous Writer Ri’neref (did I spell that right?) wrote the Age of Earth (specifically the D’ni caverns) as a stable and humble home for those not following the King of the Ronay (due to various moral disputes).



myst fanatic
Apr 02 2009

Gloa: yea, and the descendants of Ronay lived in Terahnee, as outlined in the book of D’ni. I am remembering right, right?



It seems like everyone who are fans of Myst know more about it than me, hahaha. I read the books, but didn’t know anything more about Ri’neref writing the Age of Earth. Is it in the books? I feel like I’m missing something.



Well, this is our version of the lore. It’s a bit different from the actual canon, but…
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ENEAH:
Nearly five thousand years have passed since our ancestors, The Ronay people, first arrived. Before that time our home was the age of Garternay. Our books tell us that it was a place of remarkable beauty. They describe vast fields of flowing grass adorned with white, rocky hills that glistened in the warmth of the perpetual sun. The Ronay never knew darkness. They never needed fear the questions in the shadows. They flourished in the dark, rich soils and bathed in the warm waters of the seas. It was said that Yahvo had granted this paradise as a gift to his chosen people, and that the people celebrated his name. But paradise is always an illusion. The construct of a wishful eye. For, there was a great plague that festered just below the surface of all this beauty. A pridefulness that knew no bounds. A belief that they were as their god was - capable, as an extension of Yahvo’s divine hand, of creating and destroying entire worlds at will. They came to live as demigods, claiming dominion over all within the ages of Garternay. Millions were taken and enslaved, forced to serve at the pleasure of the bless-ed ones. But not all were so comfortable in this arrogance. There were some that knew humility, and it was they who carried the shame of their people. It was they who, led by the great Lord Ri’neref, spoke out against the sickness in the souls of the Ronay people. Great divisions were formed, and as the shadow of conflict shrouded the land, so too did darkness come. A dying sun promised a dying world. The Ronay were forced to leave their paradise. Most would follow The Nameless King to the age of Terahnee, but some would follow Ri’neref. Seeing the death of the perpetual sun as Yahvo’s punishment for such sinful pride, he put his hand to The Book of Earth and thus D’ni began. It was to be a new beginning, free from the tyranny that infected Garternay. He placed us here, in this cavern, so that we might know our grace in humbleness. We were to appreciate the gifts of Yahvo in the beauty our ages would provide. And so it came to be, and so we have remained since.
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Note: This is an excerpt from the rough of the script. It has not been edited yet, so be easy on the criticism. :)



Ryan Davis, we may just take you up on that offer. Perhaps you should run it by your girlfriend first, though :) I may want her to take a look after I have completed this revision. Thanks :)



I guess I’m all smiles today…which is ironic :) :) :) :)



Aaaaaah, I get it now! I like your version.

I think the line near the end about them knowing their grace in humbleness is very characteristic of anyone in D’Ni. Everything seems to tie together nicely.



KatrAnna
Apr 02 2009

SCRIPT PIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! And I like that version of canon. Very poetic. :D :D



Flowerpower
Apr 02 2009

I like how you summarize D’ni genesis.
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On a related note, on youtube there is a documentary on the D’ni. It’s pretty good check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JMDjTuEWsY&feature=PlayList&p=B211920ADEA018AB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1
If the link somehow doesn’t work, look up “The Deep City”



Annunaki
Apr 03 2009

Where did these people (from the youtube video) get the crazy idea that the D’ni lived under New Mexico? Clearly the books state that it was in the Sahara Desert somewhere in Africa. Is this apart of the “new” (fake) canon?



Annunaki, it’s really funny that you’ve asked this question. I’m not sure if you were serious, but if so, know that this has been a big source of debate on this site and elsewhere. The books do “suggest” the Middle East, but official Myst canon states very clearly that the cleft was in New Mexico. Some call this retcon, others claim it was artistic license on David Wingrove’s part. Rand tells us it’s the latter. I won’t revive the debate as to which is better…



Flowerpower, thanks so much for that link! I really enjoyed this film. It was quite impressive. I think it serves as a perfect primer for a BoT film. I don’t know if anyone has ever seen “History vs. Hollywood” but I felt like this could have been the beginnings of an episode about BoT. Awesome. Thanks to those involved in the making. I can’t believe I hadn’t found this before now.



Annunaki
Apr 03 2009

Interesting, I have seen some of the debates about canon and which one is accurate, but I’ve never seen the debate about location. I haven’t played URU (I’m a purest, the books and first two games ARE the canon :) ) so I didn’t know that they set it in New Mexico. I hope Adrian that you are writing the Sahara as the location for the Surface, it is much more epic and mysterious, besides the book is clear that it is not in North America. Anyway that’s my two cents.



I can read too! And I am full of preconceptions. :mrgreen:

Youtube documentary: That was something made by IC roleplayers. Some people tend to take what they say with a grain of salt or simply ignore everything with their names so it’s no surprise that it’s forgotten. I think the overall documentary is nicely made but all the small inconsistencies irks me like when they show a picture of D’ni writing when talking about the gahrohevtee (no one knows what they look like) or making statements like “the d’ni society was centred around linking books”. (We know very little about the upper classes and nearly nothing about the daily life of lower classes. They only had access to books in the public libraries and I’m sure they had better things to do than slacking there.) /endrant

Here is an excellent website containing all the journals of Uru. The book for Ri’Neref (listed under kings) contains a lot of information on the move to D’ni. He seemed to be very opposed to the whole using slaves thing. I wonder if he knew about the bahro… This is all very fascinating. 8)

Also “The Nameless King” sounds like an evil boss dude. Just so you know.



“(I’m a purist, the books and first two games ARE the canon)”
Well, most people advocating New Mexico as the location are also purists - they’re just purists of a different game (or of the official canon).

And still, the Spanish Empire could be very mysterious and epic (although I’m still hoping for the Ottoman Empire [the books seemed more Middle Eastern to me, not North African]).

“besides the book is clear that it is not in North America”
(well, most of the arguments [camels, names, Islam, etc.] can be individually refuted with examples [albeit slightly rare] of such things existing at that time in New Mexico) The books are also clear in some other non-canon things (their description of how linking books are written, for example), which may be why people disregard them so quickly (and also Cyan claims that they meant for the Cleft to be in New Mexico the whole time - they just told Wingrove to put it in “a desert” and he chose the Middle East because it was interesting)

“statements like “the d’ni society was centred around linking books”. (We know very little about the upper classes and nearly nothing about the daily life of lower classes. They only had access to books in the public libraries and I’m sure they had better things to do than slacking there.)”
They wouldn’t have to daily use linking books for the society to be based around them. I’d say the fact that there was a whole major Guild of Writers (not to mention that many of the other guilds were based to some degree on linking), and that many of their materials and most of their food was probably brought in from other Ages to be enough to say that their society was centered around linking books.

“Also “The Nameless King” sounds like an evil boss dude. Just so you know.”
:D

:adrian2face:



“The Nameless King” is not my invention. It’s pulled from mystlore.



They wouldn’t have to daily use linking books for the society to be based around them. I’d say the fact that there was a whole major Guild of Writers (not to mention that many of the other guilds were based to some degree on linking), and that many of their materials and most of their food was probably brought in from other Ages to be enough to say that their society was centered around linking books. But would it be something people considered every time they had a meal? Only rich people got into the guilds, they may be there but it’s just the people in power. Yes the linking books were used extensively but was it a part of peoples conciousness that it was or was it a natural thing to them? I could say our society is based around communication but is that what others would say if you asked them that question? Maybe someone would answer “God” because that’s what they find important in their life? I guess the question is how you define “based on”. ;)
“The Nameless King” is not my invention. It’s pulled from mystlore.
Doesn’t make it less evil dude sounding like. :p
So this is Eneah talking to Anna at some point right? :mrgreen:



myst fanatic
Apr 03 2009

Well, if i’m understanding corectly, the Nameless King was a pretty evil dude. i mean, he’s the guy that led the rest of the Ronay to Terahnee, away from D’ni, and away from how they should have seen the art. he needs to have a kind of edgy feel to his name… if i’m understanding correctly of course.
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script part sounds epicly amazing! And Junee, I’d think this would be Aitrus answering a few of Ti’anna’s more indepth questions after her case-thingy. Either way, are you planning on having little clips of the actual events as whoever it is is narrating, or are you just going to have them and Ti’anna talking (i’m inferencing, i have no idea what is going to happen)?
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But i do have a question though: Did the D’ni know about the secret chamber underneath the writers guild before the fall? I’d understand that Ri’neref would want to hide the great chamber leading to Terahnee. But how would anyone remember it millenia later? I-I don’t know. Maybe I’m just overthinking it…. :( Iwe need a smiley or something for IDK (I don’t know) :IDK:



Flowerpower
Apr 04 2009

Everyone: Ahh! The post that launched a thousand posts :-)
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If you were to ask me, the D’ni caves being located somewhere in the middle east fits better with D’ni’s image. However, on a geeky level doesn’t it just send a chill down your spine knowing that the D’ni caverns are “supposedly” just a state or, in some cases, a stone’s throw away (Though, for some you there might be a ocean you have to cross first). Doesn’t info like this just make you want to pick up a shovel and start digging? I’m coming for ya’ “my friend”! :-)
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“The nameless king”
Hm, I never thought of him as evil- misguided/ misdirected, yes. But not entirely evil. Hmmm…. food for thought- is he inherently good or inherently evil? Even the misguided can be inherently good, right? Surely there is some part of them that is aware that they’re making evil decisions, but then if they are aware that what they’re doing is wrong it begs the question, why do they do it? So would knowledge of personal evil actions and refusal to change make them inherently evil?



myst fanatic
Apr 04 2009

Flower:…… i’m sorry, but my head just exploded…. kind of like what that german guy said on get smart KA FREAKIN BOOM!
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No, i think i get what you are saying. I agree with the misdirected… a bit. But he still was working on the people’s desire to be kings of their ages. In the end, it totally corrupted thousands of people for thousands of years! And plus, if someone knows they are making evil decisions and does them anyway, that makes them evil. It’s the actions that makes someone good or evil, not what their title or whatever is. I’m just saying, the creepiness and mysterioiusness of the title “The Nameless King” begs the person to believe that they correspond with that title. And, in the end, he did! He was corrupt, misguided, and very mysterious. All of the D’ni like erased it from their histories, and even locked away their little vault thingy. so, they must have realized the importance of locking him away.
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gah, i’ve got to stop ranting… it’s not healthy….. :lol: :D did that work?



Annunaki
Apr 04 2009

The Nameless King is a great name if it weren’t for Harry Potter and the “One who can not be named”. If the “Nameless King” gets put into the Myst movies (even in a intro) most of the viewers will think it was copied from Harry Potter.



Annunaki
Apr 04 2009

“an intro” for you English buffs out there :)



The stranger
Apr 04 2009

About New Mexico VS The Middle East. I don’t like several things in the canon too, but hey, calling it fake isn’t fare, considering it was made by Cyan Worlds.

And like GLOA, I think the spanish empire can be very interesting too. It would make a lot more sense that an English speaker will live in New Mexico. I think.

And natives are cool. :D



“But would it be something people considered every time they had a meal?”
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I’d say it would be, since the food they’re eating comes from other Ages. Yes, they may take it for granted, but that just shows even more how their culture is based on it. Since they either A) think about it each meal (because each meal comes from Ages) or B) take it for granted, combined with the fact that C) a lot of material for everyday things come from these Ages and D) the power structure is built around it, it would be hard to not say that the culture is based on linking (unless you see “based on” as the sole basis that means that all other possible bases are void, in which case it would be hard to say that any culture is based on anything).
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” I’d think this would be Aitrus answering a few of Ti’anna’s more indepth questions after her case-thingy”
Except that the thing starts with the word “ENEAH:”, which we are all assuming to mean that Eneah is saying it (unless Adrian is being sneaky, which is quite possible, or unless the lines have since been changed). It seems that Eneah is the Mysteriacs helpful explanation character.
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“Either way, are you planning on having little clips of the actual events as whoever it is is narrating”
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Now that would be cool (although just having them talking could be cool too).
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“t would make a lot more sense that an English speaker will live in New Mexico. I think.”
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Actually I think an English speaker would be more likely in the Middle East. New Mexico was part of the Spanish Empire at the time, with English interests based on other parts of the continent. The British did have several interests in the Middle East/Central Asia area, though, and the foreign but “civilized” Ottoman territories would be easier to get to than the American wilderness.



Annunaki
Apr 04 2009

I don’t know how many of you were fans of Myst, Riven, and the books back in the mid 1990’s. (I’m assuming a lot of you were!) If you recall most of the fan sites and even Cyan’s fan site spoke of the area where Anna grew up in as North Western Africa. Supposedly the inspiration for the Stone structure that Anna and her father found (caused by the earthquake that collapsed the tunnel) was the Richat Structure. Check out this link: http://wonder-full-world.blogspot.com/2007/11/eye-of-africa-richat-structure.html. Fans began to see the similarities between the Richat Structure and the descriptions in the books. There are also volcanoes in this area, and so this was soon accepted as the location by most fans. I know that this area has it problems as well, particularly with the size of the Richat; it is big, and the structure in the book is much smaller. However the people who have actually been there said that the very center eye of the Richat Structure is similar in size and description to the rock structure in the book. This along with the fact that the Traders in the Books were Muslim (they spoke of “Allah”) and Amanjira’s house had silk and glass doors (neither of which were available in New Mexico at the time) took the location out of the America’s and put it in Africa, or the Middle East for some who didn’t accept the Richat Structure.
Once again no hard feelings to those fans who see the location as New Mexico, I realize that many fans place it there, and I know that things have changed since the writing of the books and Myst’s original fans. I don’t claim to be an expert on this at all. But I thought it might be interesting for some of the older fans to remember the original history and lore.



Annunaki
Apr 04 2009

P.S. Is there a place you can read the D’ni cannon vs. the Myst canon?



Annunaki
Apr 04 2009

Sorry that link is not working cause it has a . at the end of the html . Here is one t hat will work.
http://wonder-full-world.blogspot.com/2007/11/eye-of-africa-richat-structure.html



P.S. Is there a place you can read the D’ni cannon vs. the Myst canon?
Eeep so many things to keep track of. Uru is considered canon compared to the other games and to some extent the books (therefore it’s “proved” that the cleft is in new mexico, because it is in Uru). But I don’t know if anyone has actually listed what is canon before.
Funny thing while I searched around for it I stumbled upon this which made me read the entry for Myst and this blog is mentioned! And from now on my Relto is known as “Narrow Escape”. :mrgreen:



Flowerpower
Apr 04 2009

Does any one know the history behind European imperialism in the middle east? Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t European imperialism in the middle east begin sometime in the 1800s? If you crunch the numbers, then Anna/ Ti’ana would have to be born some time in the mid- late 1700s. Albeit, you could argue that because Anna’s family are explorers and just a single unit- history’s timeline doesn’t exactly apply to them, that is to say they are independent of historical shifts. Therefore, they can be in the middle east before imperialism became a major policy on the world stage. In any case, the time line really only matters if historical events are going to play a crucial role in the movies plot.
Wait a sec, I guess technically imperialism began as far back as the crusades so…



The stranger
Apr 04 2009

Going away from “it makes sense!” thing, New Mexico gives the sense of area 51, like “it’s right under you! you just don’t know it!”. And, mixing the old west with fantasy-stuff is really nice.

Now, going back to “it makes sense!” thing, the whole underground city thing fits right into the natives mythologies.



This is the debate that never dies :)
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Okay, the official word from Cyan is that the cleft was always meant, from the time of the first game’s creation, to be in N.M. Although the cleft was not a part of the first game, the lore had already been fleshed out and it stated that it was in N.M. Some questions were raised during the writing of BoA because of the fact that it seemed to suggest the Middle East. Those concerns were ultimately ignored (for unknown reasons). The decision was later made to correct the misconceptions that the books created (also, for unknown reasons). Regardless of what makes sense, according to canon, the cleft is in N.M.
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That being said, I will - for the first time - come out and state without any vagueness that I personally prefer the Middle East. I’ve hinted at it many times, but I’ve never come right out and said it. So there it is. At present, the script is set in the Middle East. So, there you go.
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Now, that being said, Rand has expressed some concern about the discontinuity of the canon with the script in its current setting. Both Patrick and myself feel very strongly that there are many very good reasons to maintain our setting for the good of the narrative of the film, but this is a discussion we will need to have in depth with Rand and Tony at a later date. Our preference is not based on anything more than the fact that we feel that the Middle East suits the tone of the film much more readily. It is not a commentary on canon, but simply an artistic choice we’ve made in the interest of making a solid film.
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MYSTery solved :)



Annunaki
Apr 05 2009

That’s a tough call Adrian, obviously I agree with you but I didn’t know all the other stuff about the official canon and Rands preference. However, I strongly believe that you and Patrick have to make the final decision on this. The sad fact will be that most of the people that go and see this film will not be hardcore Myst fans, therefore it must be set in a way that is conducive to the rest of the film. Personally I feel that the Middle East would have more of an “Epic” feel (if that is what you are going for) then NM but either way it’s going to be a great film.



The stranger
Apr 05 2009

I seee your point. But in my opinion, if NM is going to be done well, it can be a lot more interesting than the Middle East, I think. But that’s just me.

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:) :)



Flowerpower
Apr 05 2009

The Stranger: good point.

The middle east is cool. Now where’s the film going to be shot, Canada? :-)



myst fanatic
Apr 05 2009

Gloa: oh, yea… right… I- I was just testing to see how well you were paying attention! yea, that’s it…. okay, my bad :( :lol:
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I think, personally, that it would be really, really cool for the cleft to be in N.M. Because then the path into D’ni would be in america, and all that cool “I can drive a few hundred miles and be in the cleft!” type of thing. But, for the sake of the movie, I would have to agree and support what Adrian and Patrick are saying. in order for the movie to even closely resemble the book, the cleft would have to be in the middle east. I mean, has anyone seen a single camel in N.M.? or a city even resembling the one in the book there. well, then again, i’m just stating the obvious again aren’t I?
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“I agree with you but I didn’t know all the other stuff about the official canon and Rands preference. However, I strongly believe that you and Patrick have to make the final decision on this.”
Annunaki: I don’t know if i’m misunderstanding what you are saying, but I have to disagree. I think that Rand, Patrick, and Adrian have an equal say in the end. I mean, Rand made myst in the first place. And it is by his approval that they are making the movie. While Adrian and Patrick have a say in what they put into the movie, i think it would be very unwise to go against Rand’s suggestions.
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Besides, whether or not it is in N.M. or the middle east doesn’t matter. D’ni is D’ni wherever it is. And to argue about whether it’s in one place or another doesn’t really matter. the time above land is a fraction compared to the time in D’ni. so why does it really matter?



“Rand made myst in the first place. And it is by his approval that they are making the movie. While Adrian and Patrick have a say in what they put into the movie, i think it would be very unwise to go against Rand’s suggestions.”
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This is very, very true. Whatever decisions are made will be done so to the approval of everyone involved. It is our hope to convince Rand of the legitimacy of our position.
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“D’ni is D’ni wherever it is. And to argue about whether it’s in one place or another doesn’t really matter. the time above land is a fraction compared to the time in D’ni. so why does it really matter?”
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This I have to disagree with. While the surface setting is a very small part of the story, I feel it has a significant impact on the story both tonally and narratively. It is an issue of major concern for us.



I wonder if the placement needs to be defined. Anna and her father lives alone in the middle of the desert, the only contact with civilization is when Anna goes to Tadjinar. You could simply let Anna go to the cleft and rest there, show a distant view of the city without any distinctive cultural designs (like, a night view where you only see lights) and then magically transport it to the moment where she comes back to the loft a few days later. Course, we’ll miss seeing Samuel L Jackson as Amanjira but it’s for the greater good. :p
(Since much of the story on the surface is concentrated on the relationship between Anna and her father I figure that’s what’s being cut down on when you need time for more important plots later on… )
The only issue with this approach is that the vegetation is slightly different between the two places, but assuming people are like me and don’t know how to distinguish between them (or that this takes place in a desert with barely any plants as the book implies (which kinda ruins it for NM)) that won’t be a problem. :mrgreen:



myst fanatic
Apr 06 2009

well, now that i think about it, i can kind of see your point Adrian. I mean, the entire beginning of the book is about Aitrus wanting to get to the surface in the first place. And also, Ti’anna is going to be greatly affected by the society she came from. Therefore, it must really be important where the Cleft is. Is there anything else i’m missing? Is D’ni going to have some core similarities with Tadjinar? again, we need a smily for :IDK:
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Sorry you disagreed with me Adrian :( ;)



D’ni is actually under New Mexico, but setting it in the Middle East for the movie is fine, I mean it isn’t the first thing you’ve done that’s not true.



KatrAnna
Apr 06 2009

Remember, they’re doing an *adaptation* of the BOOK. This movie isn’t all about the games, it’s coming from the book. Right? The animatic showed camels, and camels are way more mysterious and epic than horses. :lol:
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Looks like this is going to be the biggest sticking point for fans either way. Good luck, you’re gonna need it!



I always thought that D’Ni was under the Middle East, but I don’t mind whatever location they pick.

I guess you can’t make everyone happy, because theres always disagreements. Even so, it’ll still be a great movie, I’m sure.

I guess you could take Harry Potter as an example. People always complain about the small details that are wrong and whatnot, but in the end, the movies are still really popular.



“I wonder if the placement needs to be defined.”
Technically, they could avoid it. This, however, would be hard. They’d have to remove any depiction of Tadjinar (even the name, and I think even the lights could show things one way or another), carefully make the Lodge a culturally neutral place (without any hints of the surrounding people groups), and in general take out the starting human side to things (and Samuel Jackson as Amanjira :p)
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“… I mean it isn’t the first thing you’ve done that’s not true.”
Yeah, since both canons happen to be complete fabrications ;)
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“Looks like this is going to be the biggest sticking point for fans either way. Good luck, you’re gonna need it!”
Ah yes, I think it’s been the largest debate since we knew that the film would be based off BoT. There’s just so many fans on both sides of the issue, and so many logical and emotional reasons for both causes.
:ridiculous:



Junee & Gloa said: I wonder if the placement needs to be defined., Technically, they could avoid it … They’d have to remove any depiction of Tadjinar , and something about Samuel Jackson!
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I say: The placement is defined in that a lot of the opening of the script takes place in Tadjinar. A lot is in the beginning of the film that is not in the book. A lot that will become deleted scenes. And I’m already working on Snakes in D’ni.
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Andy said: I mean it isn’t the first thing you’ve done that’s not true. - Gloa followed up with: Yeah, since both canons happen to be complete fabrications.
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I laughed out loud. Not at anyone, but with everyone. :)



The placement is defined in that a lot of the opening of the script takes place in Tadjinar
I see.. You’re not doing a “Tadjinar, year 1750-somthing”, right? I want to know what you changed. It’s much harder to speculate about things you don’t know anything about. :p
Oooh are you starting with the whole family arriving with Anna as a little girl?



You’re not doing a “Tadjinar, year 1750-somthing”, right?
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No. There are no subtitles or supers planned, except during some scenarios where D’ni is being spoken fluently and context is required.



^^OOOOOOH! So there ARE some D’ni parts in the movie! o^_____^o



Flowerpower
Apr 10 2009

The D’ni language should be taught in schools :-)


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