Sep 11

Say All the Things I’ve Always Wanted…

We’ve been terrible about updating this blog lately.  Things have been so busy and we’ve been working so hard that the energy required to write a post just isn’t there very often anymore.  Nevertheless, it is time to bring you guys up to speed.

I think I’ll start with Scorpio.  We somehow managed to shoot an entire short film without even letting any of you guys know we were doing it.  It has been mentioned passively on two occasions, but we never actual officially announced or talked about the project.  That is clearly neglectful to our loyal readers.  For that we apologize and wish to rectify this terrible wrong.  So, now I’m officially announcing and talking about the project.  It is a short film and it’s called Scorpio.  We shot it at the end of July and it stars an amazingly talented and incredibly good person named Amanda Garant.  Oh, and it also stars yours truly (in my first acting gig in 9 years).  It’s a 5-7 minute short comedy that explores the selfishness people seem to so often display in a relationship.  Sounds like a knee-slapper, right?  Trust me, it’s funny.  And sweet.  And tragic.  And honest.  It’s got heart.  Judd Apatow, here we come!

The purpose of the film was to have a solid reel piece to offer while we’re out there trying to convince the powers that be to let us make this really cool movie called Myst.  Some of you may remember For Travis Preston, our last attempt at this task.  Unfortunately, we realized that the resources and time necessary to complete that film were just not available.  We went back to the drawing board and further developed the concept for Scorpio.  The film was an idea we’d had in our heads for the better part of four years and when we realized our above stated limitations, it looked like the right time to get it in the can.  Scorpio required two cast members, as opposed to the 22 required for F.T.P.  When you consider the logistics of bringing in all of those actors, putting them up in rooms, feeding them, working with their schedules, etc.  it becomes pretty clear that a two-character, 3 page script is a lot more doable.

So, we’re currently in post-production on the film and hope to have it done within the next month.  That said, to all of you who donated money for F.T.P., THANK YOU and your money has not gone to waste.  It was reappropriated to Scorpio and came in very handy.

Okay, on to other things…

As we stated recently, the script has undergone yet another cutting session.  We managed to get it down to 164 ( a major victory in our book).  I’m very happy to say that the results were pleasing.  I still believe in the script and am convinced it is stronger for the cuts.  Unfortunately, we’re not done yet.

A lot of our contacts in Hollywood have asked us to cut it further.  We’ve made some great progress with some really important people, but no one is quite ready to commit to the project as is.  They’d like us to trim just a bit more.  As scary and frustrating as this prospect is to me, we’ll do what it takes to get this film greenlighted (and fight for our scenes later…maybe).

So, now we’re back in edit mode on the script.  We’ve begun writing up an index card for every scene and posting them on a series of corkboards.  Once we have the entire script “modeled”, we’ll begin looking at it as an object and see where we think the body is sagging a bit.  Then, like a drunk plastic surgeon, we’ll hack and slice until it looks more like Britney Spears…or something.

Many more things I just can’t share with you all.  I wish I could, but that’s all you get for now.  I promise, we’re still working hard and there is still much more to come.

Until next time (hopefully not a month from now).

Posted at 3:40 am by Adrian in collaborators, communications, planning, script · tags: , , , , ,
136 others write,
  • heyhey I’m first !

    I hope everything goes well, we trust you

  • Soo, will we get to see Scorpio when it’s finished????

  • D’oh, for a second I thought you were talking about a short film from the Myst movie. But then I realized I never read anything about scorpio in Myst, LOL.

    Good luck to your crew. Im hoping with all the edits the movie will still have the effect the book story had, or better. I trust you will do well.

  • Thestrangeredreply

    ooo, nice. Can’t wait for the greenlight.

  • Is it just the length they are concerned about, or is it also action/pacing (like that other guy was)?

  • I thought you spent the money on an Xbox 360, pizzas and something else?

  • When you brought up the corkboard and index cards, I thought you were going to use darts to select the scenes to cut. Don’t scare me like that!

  • I know thats what I would have spent it on. :) Glad Scorpio worked out for you guys. I was so sad to Hear FTP didn’t end up how you guys wanted.
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    And Britney Spears!? (insert shaved head comment here) Can’t you have a real beauty in there like Jessica Biel?….by the way I still think she’d be great for Ti’ana! :)

  • Hmmm, using the eighth sign of the Zodiac… nice title ; )

  • I hope the contacts realize that if they force you to cut too much, the profit would drop significantly. Hopefully they have at least some idea where the happy medium is, and hopefully the story doesn’t suffer if they miss it.

  • As long as Anna doesn’t turn out looking like Britney Spears.

    I’m surprised the script has to be so short. I’m by no means a writer, professional or even by hobby, but I wrote a script for a machinima movie once. It was never completely finished (got as far as filming and cutting but voiceovers and music were never inserted), but there were 64 pages and the final product would have been 40 minutes. Seems weird that they would want yours lower than 164. I guess mine could have been a formatting issue.

    The method of putting things on cards and editing from there is really useful. I’m a graphic design student and we do it all the time with things like web layouts. I’m glad you’re going that route, just be sure to write down where these scenes were omitted and keep the cards, just in case you get to slide them back in at a later point.

  • The good news is, your contacts are still interested (true it sucks that the script needs to be edited some more but that’s better then them giving up on the whole idea)!!! Yay life’s good! Congrats!!! Happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, happy, joy, joy… :-)

  • “I thought you spent the money on an Xbox 360, pizzas and something else?”
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    Obviously the inspiration of pizzas and an xbox came in handy for Scorpio
    (hopes he remembered how to do italic text right…)
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    “I’m surprised the script has to be so short. I’m by no means a writer, professional or even by hobby, but I wrote a script for a machinima movie once. It was never completely finished (got as far as filming and cutting but voiceovers and music were never inserted), but there were 64 pages and the final product would have been 40 minutes. Seems weird that they would want yours lower than 164. I guess mine could have been a formatting issue.”
    Might also be due to different levels of detail and instructions. The page number to time could vary depending on how complex all the movements and directions are.
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    Anyway, great to hear from the Mysteriacs a-gehn.
    :adrianface:

  • Here’s to hoping Scorpio gets you some f’real indie/Hollywood cred, and that you can keep those scenes that will make Myst the deep, enriching, epic story it deserves to be. Best of luck, MFG.

  • Robert The Rebuilderreply

    So that’s the ‘Scorpio’ that Patrick mentioned in his Facebook update! Glad to see that the FTP money I donated didn’t go to XBox games. ;-) Good luck on the post production!

    And let’s hope that the plastic surgery on the script will end up looking more like Britney’s chest than Michael Jackson’s nose. :D

  • You guys are on Facebook? Cooooool hehe

  • I can’t wait for Scorpio, when will it be ready for us to see?
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    @Flowerpower: I had a dream not to long ago that I was on Myst island, but without any of the buildings. There was ice and snow like it was winter , I was with this girl who I don’t know in real life, and I think we were waiting for someone. Then I was on that rocky peak sliding down the slope toward where the library is, exept it looked like my garage. Then I noticed the girl had disappeared. ??????????????????

  • Any idea what it means?

  • I’m well aware you guys know what you’re doing, but I do want to mention an approach to editing that I believe in. Rather than trying to make each scene shorter, in order to keep all the material, it usually is better to cut whole scenes or plot points out entirely. This way, the movie doesn’t feel rushed or crowded. Without knowing the contents of the script, I’ll add this. If you have a scene explaining to Anna the history of the D’ni, drop it. It’s just background exposition, and there’s something to be said for keeping the D’ni mysterious to the audience. Their background can be explored in the next movie :)

  • Yes. After all, they will have PLENTY of time to do whatever they want in the next movie. It’s like the opposite of this one, hehe.
    _
    As for this movie, you have to have the word “hubrus” or however you spell it in there! It’s a great word for the D’ni.

  • @ Andrew: yes, it means you shouldn’t eat spicy food before you go to bed.

  • Andrew: It’s simple, in a past life you were that gecko/ lizard Yeesha was all excited about in Myst IV. You were originally on Myst island, then an animal poacher came and tried to nab you, so you ran up the mountain. Eventually, you were caught and smuggled into Tomahna. Your life in Tomahna was great and it got even better when Atrus built his garage. All that junk= lot’s of living space for you. As an added bonus, Yeesha couldn’t bother you any more (once she bahro-ed you for show- and- tell. Oi, that was a day from hell. All those kids poking you…) ;-) That’s possibility one. Possibility two: You’ll have a dangerous journey over water (be careful when it rains- all those puddles…) Anyway, you’ll come across an island- moon princess whose daily ritual is to howl at the sun and nag you about cleaning you garage. Beware of her because the only way to escape her is to slide down a mountain on your butt! Horrible isn’t it? You’ll have to ruin a perfectly good pair of jeans. :-(

  • Will we get to see Scorpio?

  • @ Donnie: Darts, you say…hmmm…..

  • Yes! It all makes perfect sense now!

  • Stab at plot for Scorpio: Two people fighting over a car. Then they end up having sex in the back seat. Then the car is sold and/or someone dies (depending on if it is 5 or 7 minutes long).
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    Noah Taylor? Saw him in an episode of Morse, of course that was probably made around the time I was born so he’s a bit older now. Looks very cunning and a bit Sirrus-in-Revelation-like. And very cute when he was young. :mrgreen:

  • All updates are appreciated! Kudos on filming a secret short film, maaan. Also, news of more cuts is painful to take. But I’m confident in you guys, you’ll make it work. :-)

    Meanwhile, I’ve mashed Myst with Freakazoid in my own animatic, which you can see in my username-link if you’re so inclined.

  • just type it all in font size 4 they wont notes and it will be alot of pages shorter…lol

  • I think the frequent use of the acronym for a computer communications protocol is what really killed For Travis Preston. I was always confused. I thought you were working on building a new server for your website or something. Surely I’m not alone in that.
    .
    It’s no wonder Scorpio went through so quickly without all that confusion. Good job!

  • Congrats on Scorpio! I’m sure it felt good to see a project all the way through so quickly.

  • I take it this is the “snack” you mentioned in late July?
    Hope to see it soon

  • Just don’t leave out so much that people have the read the book in order to understand what’s going on. There was a recent movie that did that, and while I enjoyed it, that’s only because I had read the book like 8 times.

  • I wonder how the scripts editing will change the pace of the story. I dont doubt the possibility of it being slightly shorter in pace. Much of the story is very descriptive of surroundings, themselves. I just hope what I see on screen some day will paint similar pictures in my eyes, that the book did in my mind. I hope the story stays the same, though. Reading, you can only catch glimpses of what the story might look like. but, that might also depend on how much of Myst you know about. Im not saying the world should look exactly like URU or other games. I imagined D’ni civilization cavern much larger than that world of URU.

  • Thestrangeredreply

    Actually, the cavern as told in Myst the Book of Ti’ana was MUCH smaller than the one in Uru. They made it bigger in Uru for this exact reason: they felt it should be bigger. But this also comes with it’s problem: ae’gura was a lot smaller in relation to the huge lake, and felt less important. Maybe it they just made it taller and wider…

    I may be a Canon 2.0 boy, but I hoped to see places atleast slightly resembling what we saw in Uru. While the Uru ae’gura was kinda’ bare, and could use a lot more structures on it (and again, be taller and wider), a loved the Arch of Kerath design (who didn’t :P ), I loved the great stairs and the building along it, and I loved the Guilds Hall design. And, the D’ni houses look very good and interesting.

    I thought that the New Mexico move was good, but let’s not get into that again.

    And the city on the cavern wall! god, it was perfect! :D http://www.dpwr.net/forums/index.php?autocom=gallery&req=si&img=1546
    (they actually used it in Uru, but deleted it after a short while so it will fit the story.

  • The reason I see D’ni as a huge cavern civilization, is because it many times described areas that sound like large cities, lots of business, movent all over.
    D’ni is divided up into different classes as well, the poorest being neat the bottom.
    When I ead Ti’anna the world just seems much larger than URU IMO.

  • near*

  • Thestrangeredreply

    Have you even played Uru? the cavern there is HUGE O_O

  • The cavern in Uru always seemed much smaller to me than the civilization described in D’ni, I guess because we couldn’t get to residential areas.

  • I always pictured the D’ni having a disco ball at the top of the cavern’s ceiling. ;-)
    Raise the roof!!!

  • Thestrangered, I do agree the Cavern looks huge in URU as far as “concept”. But not as far as what you actually have access to.
    I’m talking about the descriptions of levels of housing and even marketing streets. Also, I know I repeat myself, but the book does describe times where the cavern streets are filled with people. You even have carriages that carry goods and people.
    URU is just a glimpse at what D’ni actually is.

  • That’s because URU was never finished.

  • myst fanaticreply

    I’d like to remind everyone that the Uru games were not included in Patrick and Adrian’s version of Cannon (*!please not that argument again!*). But I have to say that the Rand version of the caverns is absolutely beautiful! No room left out, and everything masterfully crafted: just the D’ni way!
    (*I agree with Flower… put a disco ball on the top and have it be a cool extra. Then have Rand come out and do disco in front of the Writer’s Guild! ;) )
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    They want you to cut MORE!!!!! what the freakin’ crap (*gasp!)! So how long are these guys actually wanting it? It is now shorter than Lord of the Rings…. I mean, I know that you guys need to make the people in holywood but come on! I thought they wanted a full-length movie, not a short film! Just…. Just do the cuts and let me get over this…. (*grrrrrrr…*) :patrickjudgingface: :adrianface: :adrian2face: :ridiculous: :lol: ;)

  • > Cannon

    (*!please not that misspelling again!*).

    If a name like Peter Jackson were making the movie, it could be longer. He’s not. That’s the reality and P & A are wise to not presume the priviledges of his credentials.

  • Thestrangeredreply

    Yeah, I know they won’t include any hint of the Uru design. Understandable, though I still wish they kept some minimal designs (like the arch of kerath), if only for a little bit of continuation, nothing more.

    Yeah, I kidna’ sad they didn’t finish Uru. Could be awsome to see the “completed” D’ni :( .

  • It’s shorter than Lord of the Rings?
    _
    This is a long film by nature. If there is another film that successful out there that’s longer then don’t get shorter than that. PLEASE! People have to realize that this movie needs what it needs, and…they weren’t compalining with LotR, so they shouldn’t be complaining about the Myst movie. This film will be successful as well.

  • “The cavern in Uru always seemed much smaller to me than the civilization described in D’ni, I guess because we couldn’t get to residential areas.”
    Yes, we only see a very small part of the D’ni city (which is a reasonable game limitation), and even that can seem smaller than it really is (especially if you run through it all the time). Perhaps with time that would have changed (more places added, more technical capacity for larger Ages…)
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    “I’d like to remind everyone that the Uru games were not included in Patrick and Adrian’s version of Canon (*!please not that argument again!*). But I have to say that the Rand version of the caverns is absolutely beautiful! No room left out, and everything masterfully crafted: just the D’ni way!”
    Just because the Uru games are not in the canon doesn’t mean that they’ll just ignore all the design there. I just means that they won’t have hints of bahro and the grower sprinkled in and all the other things that would have to be made to make it fit perfectly with Uru. This has the added benefit to them that they won’t have to be making everything precisely like uru at the expense of the movie (and at the expense of some nice designs in BoT and BoA that were left out from Uru). There are still many reasons to use designs similar to or the same as the ones in Uru – it’s already there and already looks D’ni, it will attract Uru fans, etc.
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    “This is a long film by nature. If there is another film that successful out there that’s longer then don’t get shorter than that. PLEASE! People have to realize that this movie needs what it needs, and…they weren’t compalining with LotR, so they shouldn’t be complaining about the Myst movie.”
    LotR was a big gamble at its time, and that was from a very well established book series. Myst, even with all its different games and books combined, has a smaller fan base. The books have perhaps the smallest fan base. The stronger fan base is connected to games, which are still a new thing for movie adaptions.
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    :adrian2face:

  • “Myst… has a smaller fan base”
    The solution is simple- get other people hooked on Myst. So far I turned two other people into Myst addicts :-)
    Maybe a slogan will help too, something like: “Got Myst?” or “Myst, it does a body good” or “Myst way or the highway” or “In Myst we trust”… Or better yet make Myst into its own religion ;-)
    Gloa, JWPlatt, (and to other people I’m too lazy to write out their names): Worst case scenario- BoT becomes Ti’ana: the warrior princess. It will be a mini-series- just think of all the hours of action packed fun! If Ti’ana starts to lose a debate all she has to do is pull out her frisbee of doom, let out a battle cry and the debate will end there, in her favor. Her side kick will be the Mighty Aphrodite who controls an army of Reekupids. They have to battle an evil duo, Mr. Bigwig and Dr. Thinker. Aitrus will be the plucky comic relief who will save Ti’ana in a couple of episodes through the ingenious inventions of coconut radios and chewing gum machine guns. Should rating go down (unlikely), just blow something up- like the great zero or whatever… then in another episode, have the D’ni land mark in the background and blow it up again. Finally, in the series finale, a hot- pink gas descends upon D’ni, things get bad- lots of yelling, explosions, some sex, more yelling, explosions, fist to face action, epic battles, explosions. The one of the last scenes is where Aitrus welds an environmentally friendly, methane powered chainsaw and dukes it out with Dr. Thinker’s recycled leaf blower (made from bamboo). The final, final scene: Ti’ana stands tall among the carnage raises a fist in the air and shouts, “Live long and suffer” to no one in particular, then something explodes.

  • I have introduced The Book of Ti’ana and The Book of Atrus to several friends and English teachers, all of whom loved them. If only more people had heard of Myst.

  • This is actually a great idea. I shall be promoting the book. It is, after all, a very great and well-written book and I’m sure a lot of people will love.
    So please do what I said and make it as looooong as it needs to be!
    _
    Flowerpower, you should be a writer.

  • Myst fanaticreply

    Gloa and Everyone: I think I need to clarify a bit on what I said: I think it would be wise for Patrick and Adrian to follow the basic style of D’ni and stuff like in Uru. Like I said before, I think that the picture that thestrangered provided (http://www.dpwr.net/forums/index.php?autocom=gallery&req=si&img=1546) was beautiful. I meant what you said Gloa: no Bahro, No Grower, ect. ;) :lol:

  • I got one of my friends to read BoT but she only read about half and then gave up. She said she really didn’t get into it and it was hard for her to continue reading. :( Other than that I got my dad to read BoT and he really liked it. He’s played all the Myst games (except Myst V) and is the one who got me hooked on the series. He loves them for the puzzles but isn’t too interested in the story. I love the games (beaten them all) and have read all the books.
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    Your so creative Flowerpower. Its always interesting to read your latest post. :-)

  • I’ll admit, I’m going to be reading [i]Myst: The Book of Ti’ana[/i] for the first time very soon, once I’m finished with the book I’m currently reading. It’s actually because of this blog and the prospect of a movie that I’ve become interested in reading the book and obtained it. I plan on reading the other two books in the series as well. In addition, I’ve committed my sister to reading it too, so there’s a convert. Flowerpower’s got a great idea. We need to start a grassroots interest in Myst and the books, so that people will have some exposure to the material in preparation to the movie. Resistance is futile, you shall worship Gehn, er, um, got carried away.

  • Haha, thats pretty good for someone whos new to the Myst series. :-) I’m trying to get people to read the Myst books and telling them a movie is being made is definitely gonna help.

  • Well, I’m not exactly new to Myst. I played the game about ten years ago when a friend introduced it to me. Then, I went on to play Riven and bought Exile when it was released. I was vaguely aware of the existence of the books, but it was the games I was interested in. I was glad to hear that they were very good, and I can’t wait to read them!

  • Thanks everyone!!! :-)
    Now shoot me ’cause I’m a masochistic student

  • Actually what we saw in URU was not the whole cavern a lot was missing. Some of the district area was blocked from us. K’veer was not the whole area either since a lot of it was blocked as well.But what was described of what I saw in URU reminded me of references in the book of T’iana.

  • So when’s the video blog returning? :mrgreen:

  • Yeah! We want video updates! Have Rand Miller do an update! That would be awesome! :-)
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    What exactly is Cyan up too now anyway? Now that the Myst games are done what do they do to keep busy?

  • Thestrangeredreply

    They are working on a new MMO, unrelated to Myst. It’s called MagiQuest Online. A company called Creative Kingdome made the concept and all, and hired Cyan Worlds to put it in action.

    They just released a Japanese version of Myst for the iPhone.

    And when/if they get enough resources, we hope work on the source of Uru will start running again.

  • Oh cool. I was getting concerned because I havn’t heard anything about Cyan in a while.

  • Hey Guys,

    We’ve not heard from you for awhile. Hope things are going well. Be good.

  • “We’ve been terrible about updating this blog lately”
    Well, it looks like you’re still terrible at it.
    But it’s ok if you’re hard at work. We understand.

  • Blog, baby, blog! ;-)

  • Happy Birthday Adrian :)

    <3 Christine, Micam & Gennavieve

  • Adrian is thirty onnnnnnnnnne!
    He’s missing the blog on his own birthday.

  • Happy 31st, Adrian. Don’t drink too much. Meanwhile, we’ll keep the party alive here all night.

  • Yeah! Look, I’m already drunk! Wait, thats for something else. My bad. Happy Birthday Adrian! :)

  • Happy B-day, (don’t worry you’re not getting bald)

  • Happy Birthday Adrian :)

  • laughingpineapplereply

    Happy birthday Adrian! :D

    I meant what you said Gloa: no Bahro, No Grower, ect.
    But there’s no need for that in BoT, since it doesn’t revolve around either. The Bahro were ubersecret by design and Kadish’s exploits were very limited. The most a BoT adaptation could do to include those aspects of Uru would be to have a character drop a reference to this weird fellow Kadish and/or to show a Bahro lurking in the shadows. Heck, even a young Esher was around at the time and could appear somewhere (that’s for those of ME who kind of like Esher XD). But they would all be cameo appearances with no relevance whatsoever.
    Those parts of Uru that may or may not be considered while adapting BoT are, basically, only the location shift, the architectural style and the basic Cavern layout, right? I’ll admit to being a little sad if these won’t be kept, as will probably happen.

  • Send me a copy of Scorpio, it will be nice to see your face.
    Happy Birthday, late.

  • “But there’s no need for that in BoT, since it doesn’t revolve around either. The Bahro were ubersecret by design and Kadish’s exploits were very limited. The most a BoT adaptation could do to include those aspects of Uru would be to have a character drop a reference to this weird fellow Kadish and/or to show a Bahro lurking in the shadows. Heck, even a young Esher was around at the time and could appear somewhere (that’s for those of ME who kind of like Esher XD). But they would all be cameo appearances with no relevance whatsoever.”
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    Still, the bahro and the Grower (not Kadish really, he’s just a pretend prophet guy) change the “feel” of D’ni. It’s a lot more mystically sinister in ways – ways that don’t really fit with the Book of Ti’ana and all. So yes, there’s no need of their presence in D’ni, or any connection to them at all (so no characters or actions influenced by any knowledge of the bahro or any bahro decision).
    I would love to see a good Esher cameo (in fleeing the city, or in any of the scenes that would need regular D’ni working people – he could fit most anywhere that didn’t have a named character).
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    “Those parts of Uru that may or may not be considered while adapting BoT are, basically, only the location shift, the architectural style and the basic Cavern layout, right? I’ll admit to being a little sad if these won’t be kept, as will probably happen.”
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    Location would almost certainly be changed (the Mysteriacs seem to be strongly for placing it in the East). I don’t think the architectural style would be changed too much. Specific buildings might not appear the same, but the general D’ni look has stayed fairly similar throughout. The Cavern layout – well, there’d be a lot of stuff in areas we don’t see in Uru, so who knows whether that will change things.

    Also, the technological ability of the D’ni will probably not be at Uru levels. KI’s, computer like interfaces…that was one of the major differences between BoT and Uru.

    :adrian2face:

  • Okaaaay, now that we’re back on this topic…
    Are you guys going with the modern Kerath’s Arch or the drawing of it in BoA?

  • I agree that there should be a Esher camio. Even if its just a simple easter-egg for the fans.
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    I think Kerath’s arch should be like how it was shown in BoA. But I did think it was a little plain. Maybe just a little tweaking?

  • I think Kerath’s arch would look magnificent either way, because it’s so massive. But yeah, maybe adding a design or two to it would be nice.

  • Thestrangeredreply

    I don’t remember how the arch was in BoA… wasn’t it simply a big arch?

    In this case, I would prefer the Uru arch. It looks far more special and interesting than a plain arch.

  • The arch should be something flashy. It should have ancient carvings that are covered up by neon signs trying to sell mattresses, or trying to get you to watch soaps like K’veer Place (or 90211), or advertising the new mega pounder with “cheese”. There should also be disco balls, strobe lights and a viewing platform that tourists can jump off of while using their iKIs. They would also have the option of a debate- topic du jour: PC v. Macs (I’m a PC and I’m a ten thousand year old civilization ;-) ) Oh and Gambling… Esher playing craps: now that’s a sight to see!
    Oh and it needs columns, tons of columns- like the wanna- be mansions, stuck on lots way too small to suit them (you know what city I’m referring to… that’s right- that one!)

  • laughingpineapplereply

    Uru version all the way. It’s unique and symbolic and… it’s even on early D’ni concept art? Where (and when) does that piece come from? The one that was posted here some days ago…
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    he could fit most anywhere that didn’t have a named character
    Sooooo fitting. That’s Esher for you: appearing all of a sudden everywhere you aren’t expecting him to. ‘_’
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    As for Bahro&Grower, I should re-read those Histories of Kings but I got the impression that they were very secret and private parts of the D’ni society – parts that are big issues in Uru because they are, uhm, right there under our noses, but that didn’t have a great impact back then. Especially not the Grower, especially not some 4700 years after Words was written and nothing had come true yet, the time of kings and prophets had passed etc etc. All they could talk about was Kadish, really. Since the ‘real’ one wasn’t around yet, there were no bizarre things happening.
    The religious, superstitious and/or mystical part of D’ni has no place in BoT, but not necessarily because it didn’t exist in ‘that’ D’ni imho. If it wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea – not Aitrus’, not Kahlis’, not Veovis’ – why should the plot care? As you said, there is no influence and therefore no need to include or exclude those aspects.

  • The thing with the arch in uru is that it doesn’t really look like an arch. It looks more like a building with a hole to let the water pass through. :p
    But of course if it’s big it will look impressive either way as you say ’cause I’m rhyming today ey ey… (Yo!)
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    Happy belated birthday Adrian! Another Libra huh?

  • I vote for Uru arch.

  • “I don’t remember how the arch was in BoA… wasn’t it simply a big arch?”
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    It had about the same shape as the Uru arch, except that the arch actually took up most of the area in the construction, rather than a (still impressively large) slit. Imagine the Uru arch, but with the opening extending all the way out to about where the outermost yellow lines are, and with an arched shape instead of a flat top to the opening. Also, I think the top part was a little larger in comparison to the rest than in the Uru arch.
    Both would be equally distinctive (both are very large and impressive in their construction, and very inhuman in their style). I think I’d prefer BoA’s arch (although Flowerpower’s arch is very intriguing as well), but I wouldn’t care that much either way.

  • Now it’s the next month…hopefully the Mysteriacs are busy making a movie ;)

  • Wow, they look very busy, we had no posts since 11 september. This means things go forward !!!

  • myst fanaticreply

    Something’s wrong with the website… everything is off-center and…. wierd. Does this mean that the Website is being updated with some new, juicy news! if so, FANTASTIC! :) :) :lol:

  • Oh gosh I need some news. Whats going on!? But of course if your busy shooting or something then by all means, take your time.
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    Now If you’ll excuse me I have an essay to write. :(

  • *stops*
    *looks around*
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    Oh, hey, guys. Anything, uh… anything happening around here?
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    *waits*
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    No? Oh, well, uh, I got Batman: Arkham Asylum the other day. It’s pretty freaking awesome. And you should all buy it.
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    *beat*
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    Uh, well, I’m gonna go. I’ll check back in later.

  • Jessica Adamsreply

    Batman arkham asylum is amazing!!! My favorite batman comic of all!

  • I’m currently abiding by the old axiom: “No news is good news” – since there has been no recent update, you must be busy doing something important.

  • Actually, Jessica, I was talking about the just-released video game for 360, PS3, and PC. Heh.

    I actually have yet to read Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, if that’s what you’re referring to. But it’s currently at the top of my reading list.

    Oh, and my favorite Batman comics of the ones I’ve read so far are Batman: Year One and Batman: The Long Halloween. I mean, hell, that one made Calendar Man creepy.

  • Way, way off topic but after three weeks of studying hell (literally, no weekend) I finally got my TESOL certificate. Yay!!!!!

  • Way to go Flowerpower!
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    Everyone! Lets see if we can make it to 100 comments!

  • Yes, which will come first? The 100 comments mark, or the one month mark since the last update? Place your bets!

    P.S. Congrats Flowerpower!

  • “The 100 comments mark, or the one month mark since the last update? Place your bets!”
    Well, if everyone starts placing their bets, then the 100 comment mark easily.

    This is like some kind of twisted game theory.

  • myst fanaticreply

    My bet, we’ll hit 100 first. Look! number 95 right here! And besides, that isn’t a fair bet, someone could just cheat and get to 100 in a few minutes. Now, 125, that’s a bet!

  • myst fanaticreply

    Oh yea, and congrats Flower!….. 96… :lol: ;)

  • To the D’ni, 125 is more idiomatic anyway.

  • Thank you, everyone!
    The hundred comments will be faster to reach. Come to think of it there hasn’t been a post that has had comments in the triple digits, lately. Where did the commenting glory days go? 0.0

  • Well, that was when we got updates more consistantly than we do now.

    Oh, and 99 – this should be faster to get to 100, unless Adrian and Patrick are waiting for comment 99.

  • Haha! I started it and now I’m that 100th guy!!! I really didn’t have a speech planned or anything…I’m sorry. :(

  • Ok, this isn’t as climactic a moment as I thought It would be. Maybe its because it was so easy…..125 it is!
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    We’re giving you until then Adrian and Patrick. :)

  • yeah, but we have to set rules for the game ! otherwize we can just spam and we’ll reach 125 in 5 seconds. So let’s say, until 125, and messages speaking about Myst only account.

  • blackmesaboyreply

    Every time I’m out in public or at college reading Myst people always mistake it for Stephen King’s “The Mist”. Doesn’t anyone know what Myst is?! :(

  • I’ve never heard of “The Mist”…hehe.

  • myst fanaticreply

    Blackmesaboy: Oh, don’t get too down. those are just too uncultured swine who liked playing “the Sims” :angryface:. If they only knew the awesomeness that is Myst, their minds would implode. SKUDOOSH!
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    :lol: i’m just kidding. They may have a little culture in them, but not enought to reach Awesome Myst status. But I have to admit, I’ve never heard of “the Mist” either. Myst blows it out of the water though…. :lol: :patrickjudgingface: :adriandeadface: Adrian, Patrick, where art thou? ;)
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    105……..

  • “The Mist” was a Stephen King movie that came out about a year ago. I havn’t seen it but I know it obviously doesn’t have anything to do with Myst.
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    myst fanatic: I’m all for making peoples heads explode with culture. And I just love the word “Skudoosh” :) …..and “bloom!”, “awesomeness”, and “Uber”. :)

  • Are the Mysteriacs still alive?

  • Mystfanatic: hey man, what do you have against the sims? :-( That game is a runner up to Myst! And what makes it even better is the fact that you can combine Myst and the sims. Hell, you can recreate D’ni- Reeeshahn has suburbs… and donut shops ;-)

  • Updates coming soon everyone I promise!

  • Thank goodeness….a promised update !

    I’m checking this site several times a day and I’m sure my boss is going to catch me at some point !

    (…..quickly flicks back to Desktop as the ofice door creaks open !!!!!!)

  • Well Thank God. And Flowerpower…that sounds epic.

  • Has anyone checked the obits.. just in case? :adriandeadface:

  • myst fanaticreply

    Flower: yea, yea, I know, Sims is a fun game. I use to love it myself! But then I found out that it replaced Myst as #1….. and it got on my mud list…… *grrrrrrrr*….. :patrickjudgingface: :adriandeadface: :ridiculous: :adrianface: :lol: At least I can keep Atrus happy at the end of the day by saving Releshahn! in sims, I have to, like, do a whole bunch of stupid stuff! No mentally stimulating puzzles at all…. a big rip-off!

  • Yay, a promise of updateingness.
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    “At least I can keep Atrus happy at the end of the day by saving Releshahn! in sims, I have to, like, do a whole bunch of stupid stuff!”
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    Name a sim Atrus (he’d be an awesome sim, by the way), and put him in a very flammable house named Releeshahn (not sure if you can name houses – just decide it’s called that). Then, you can help Atrus all the time by putting out the fires in Releeshahn (and you can make him do all the work this time, while you stick to your writings)! :D Then make a sim named Esher, and interfere with his life whenever he doesn’t actually need help while leaving him puzzled when there are actual problems that you could help him with. Ah, sweet revenge.

    :adriandeadface:

  • Sims and myst (who ever you are that did this… I love you) http://thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/4/1/3/0/9/8/MTS2_puppetfish_687845_Myst_Island.jpg
    all it’s missing is a crazy neighbor named Esher yelling, “Off my lawn ya’ damn kids” and a lawn bahro (like a lawn gnome but better)
    Uru: beyond Sims and Sims of the Shell expansion packs are sure to follow. Get them both and you’ll be able to own pet reekoos and pet squees and go on hot dates in downtown D’ni!

  • myst fanaticreply

    Gloa: yea…. I’ve done that, like 50 times with Atrus….. it loses it’s novelty. Although, it is fun to see the family dynamic with Sirrus, Achenar, Cathrine, Atrus and Yeesha…. it’s also fun to make Sirrus and Achenar get into fist fights. :lol:
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    And don’t forget, you just lock one sim in a building on an island with no books and you can call him Saavdro! In fact, that may be the most fun because it’s easy to get him mad! :lol: ;)
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    Flower: that picture made my day! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :)

  • laughingpineapplereply

    and a lawn bahro (like a lawn gnome but better)
    Now I want one :’(

    Has anybody ever made Myst skins for Sims? I’ve seen some Final Fantasy characters covered, but no-one from Myst.

    *back to studying*

  • All I ever do is if I’m playing an rpg I’ll name my character Atrus (or Tarius). But its always wierd seeing a Claymore-wielding, fireball-throwin, muscular guy named Atrus on-screen. Because we all know thats NOT Atrus. ;)
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    Never really got past the house building part on the Sims. I would always play it at a friends house and I would give myself unlimited money and just build this awesome mega dwelling for my dude.
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    Hey heres something interesting I found on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWrESVEf_Jc

  • The Lone Scribereply

    Hmm . . . three days until it has been a month, and I am the 119th post.
    As for the Kerath’s Arch discussion (and I am probably going to get pelted with all variants of cyberspace “fruit,” “tomatoes” and “cookies” for saying this), I think that the Mysteriacs should do something unique – go ahead, take some artistic license. You know, surprise us . . . in a good way.

  • @The Lone Scribe – I agree. I mean, how can you screw up an arch? Let’s see something epic.

  • Something epic with D’ni graffiti. :-) Hey we’re close to 125! We can do this everyone!!!!!

  • Thestrangeredreply

    ahh… well they could always surprise us, but they can also just keep the canon here, and avoid the hord of people asking what happened to the arch :P .

  • Thestrangeredreply

    oh, and update soon!!! :D

  • 124 messages :)

  • myst fanaticreply

    *reached 126 messages*…….. now what? Should we go to 150 or 175?….. this is bad……. :( *tear*
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    BlackMesaboy: I’ve done that a coule times with other RPG games. I did one where I had a Jedi named Atrus….. It was pretty funny to see him pwn sith lords in his cape and Lightsaber…. Then again, i guess that just shows how extremely nerdy I truly am…. :lol:
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    Missing Persons! if you’ve seen these two, please post on the sight immediately!
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    :adrianface: :patrickjudgingface: :ridiculous: Adrian, Patrick, where art thou!?!? :(

  • myst fanatic: could you possibly be talking about Knights of the Old Republic? :D
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    Did anyone check Starbucks? Or Hollywood? Maybe their shooting already!

  • Which will come first? The 625th post or one month since the last update? :p
    Dance baby, dance!! :mrgreen:

  • myst fanaticreply

    Blackmesaboy: yes! I was hoping someone would know what I was talking about. Yes, I am in fact talking about KOTOR…. both of them. I had an Atrus character for both, both of them Jedi Guardians (spelt that wrong…) :lol: that just made my day, it really has. But, for the sake of the blog, let’s end the conversation about KOTOR for now…. I’d hate it to be the source of a whole flood of posts not having anything to do with Myst. But really, i’m glad you caught that :D :lol:
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    Junee: I’m going to stab a guess at the month deadline…. if you were to lower the number down to 624 however…. then we might be talking…. JK :lol: ;)

  • myst fanatic: Arg. It hurts! Must talk about KOTOR! *sigh* your right.
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    Gosh darnit, when is the next post!? Jk, I’ll wait patiently. :D

  • “@The Lone Scribe – I agree. I mean, how can you screw up an arch?”
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    Yeah, arches are pretty much always impressive (and with the scale of that arch, it would be impressive even if it was lopsided and built out of milk cartons).
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    “…but they can also just keep the canon here, and avoid the hord of people asking what happened to the arch.”
    But there is no canon. Or rather, there are many bickering canons for the arch.
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    “…named Atrus….. It was pretty funny to see him pwn sith lords in his cape and Lightsaber….”
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    niiiice…
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    “Because we all know thats NOT Atrus.”
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    Maybe it’s “Aytrus” or “Aetrus” or something.
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    “Did anyone check Starbucks?”
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    Look for walking plants.
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    :patrickjudgingface:

  • Wait! The best arch ever: an arch without its keystone. If anyone can pull off an architectural impossibility it’s the D’ni. I was in Starbucks the other day and swore I saw two walking cookies- and one of them was smoking…. kidding! But yeah, where are you A+P???????

  • Thestrangeredreply

    GLOA: isn’t the “official” canon the Uru canon? many people don’t agree with it though… still, I’m sure the most known arch is the Uru one.

  • “GLOA: isn’t the “official” canon the Uru canon? many people don’t agree with it though… still, I’m sure the most known arch is the Uru one.”
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    The Uru canon is the canon for Uru and associates (most of End of Ages, the DRC, etc.). You don’t use the Uru canon when in Riven, though. You’d most likely use Riven era canon (Myst, Riven, and a lot of the early explanations and descriptions of things – most of Exile also probably fits this). It’s not that the Uru canon has replaced the Riven canon – it’s just that the newer games and discussion are about things that use the new canon.
    A movie could try to be part of any of the canons. Some would fit better than others, and some are not in favor (the book canon is not generally well liked where it diverges from the other canons). Since the movie is based on the book, it might want to stay closer to that. Or it might want to stay close to Uru canon because it would fit more with the most modern games and discussion, or it might want to stay close to Myst/Riven canon because that was the original formula. It will probably mix them all to some degree to get the most useful pieces of each. Which arch is going to be better in this context? We don’t know. It depends on how the rest of D’ni looks, on what nostalgia they aim to please (the book arch is more like the original “feel” of D’ni [that is in the books and also in K'veer in Myst], and the Uru arch is more like the “feel” of Uru’s D’ni), and on many other factors. So it could be best for them to pick the Uru arch, the book arch, or an entirely new design of the arch depending on the overall design of the movie.
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    :adrianface:

  • Wow, that sounds pretty complex. I don’t know why they kept changing things and didn’t try to stick to one canon for the whole series. But I guess it happens if you mean to or not. ;)
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    I’ve always hoped that Cyan would come out with a 3D version of Riven. Thats always been my favorite of the Myst games and it would be awesome to be able to go back and play it with the technology we have now. :)

  • The canon issue is always a fun one and it’s been pretty well covered here on the website so I’ll let the past do the talking. However because the movies will not be as intricate as the games or books due to the time constraints so both canons may be satisfied who knows. We do have some exciting scenes though that will create some fun “canon” buzz on the discussion boards when the movie comes out, but we being careful not to break the rules.

    P.S. Starbucks is always a good place to look blackmesaboy when worried about the welfare of anyone on our team!

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